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Sara at 04:05, 28 July 2007

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 ==== secondary dominants? ====
-according to my old music theory book, a secondary dominant is a chord that is not in the key you're playing in, but has a dominant relationships to one of the chords that are in the key.  for instance, in the key of D, A is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, the chord based on it is called by the roman numeral, V).  But in the key of A, E is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, etc.).  So if you were in the key of D, and you played and E and then an A, you could be said to have used a secondary dominant.  The way those two chords would be notated by analysis people in that context would be V/V V, or "five of five, five".  The dominant of the dominant, then the dominant.  You can play secondary dominants of other chords, too, I think.  V/IV to IV, V/ii to ii.  Does that make any sense?  Basically, it's a chord borrowed from another key that wants to resolve to a chord that's in the key you're in.  F# major in your birthday song sounds that way to me, since it should be f# minor (iii) in the key of D.  even though you resolve it up to G rather than to b, of which F# is the dominant.
+according to my old music theory book, a secondary dominant is a chord that is not in the key you're playing in, but has a dominant relationship to one of the chords that are in the key.  for instance, in the key of D, A is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, the chord based on it is called by the roman numeral, V).  But in the key of A, E is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, etc.).  So if you were in the key of D, and you played and E and then an A, you could be said to have used a secondary dominant.  The way those two chords would be notated by analysis people in that context would be V/V V, or "five of five, five".  The dominant of the dominant, then the dominant.  You can play secondary dominants of other chords, too, I think.  V/IV to IV, V/ii to ii.  Does that make any sense?  Basically, it's a chord borrowed from another key that wants to resolve to a chord that's in the key you're in.  F# major in your birthday song sounds that way to me, since it should be f# minor (iii) in the key of D.  even though you resolve it up to G rather than to b, of which F# is the dominant.
-woof, sorry about all that.  there's a reason i don't teach music.  i barely understand it myself.  [[User:Gabemcelwain|Gabemcelwain]] 19:25, 29 July 2007 (PDT)
+woof, sorry about all that.  there's a reason i don't teach music.  i barely understand it myself.  if anybody on this wiki wants to explain it better, please feel free!  (DK I'm looking in your direction...)[[User:Gabemcelwain|Gabemcelwain]] 19:25, 29 July 2007 (PDT)

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 which part is the secondary dominants? i asked google what those were but i'm still not sure. the minor chord was sean's (excellent) idea.:) [[User:Sara|Sara]] 21:05, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
-according to my old music theory book, a secondary dominant is a chord that is not in the key you're playing in, but has a dominant relationships to one of the chords that are in the key.  for instance, in the key of D, A is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, the chord based on it is called by the roman numeral, V).  But in the key of A, E is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, etc.).  So if you were in the key of D, and you played and E and then an A, you could be said to have used a secondary dominant.  The way those two chords would be notated by analysis people in that context would be V/V V, or "five of five, five".  The dominant of the dominant, then the dominant.  You can play secondary dominants of other chords, too, I think.  V/IV to IV, V/ii to ii.  Does that make any sense?  Basically, it's a chord borrowed from another key that wants to resolve to a chord that's in the key you're in.  F# in your birthday song sounds that way to me, since it should be f# minor (iii) in the key of D.  even though you resolve it up to G rather than to b, of which F# is the dominant.
+==== secondary dominants? ====
 woof, sorry about all that.  there's a reason i don't teach music.  i barely understand it myself.  [[User:Gabemcelwain|Gabemcelwain]] 19:25, 29 July 2007 (PDT)

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	which part is the secondary dominants? i asked google what those were but i'm still not sure. the minor chord was sean's (excellent) idea.:) [[User:Sara\|Sara]] 21:05, 27 July 2007 (PDT)		which part is the secondary dominants? i asked google what those were but i'm still not sure. the minor chord was sean's (excellent) idea.:) [[User:Sara\|Sara]] 21:05, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
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		+	the chord i heard as a secondary dominant doesn't really function like one, i guess. i think i secondary dominant is any dominant chord (major with a minor 7th) that you use that isn't the fifth of the key you're in. i think? so you guys play this in D, and A is the dominant chord, but then you go to f#, which I love, then quickly to F# (I hear a seventh on there, even though I don't think there is one). So the chord I mean is the F#, though I don't know if it's really a secondary dominant.
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		+	according to my old music theory book, a secondary dominant is a chord that is not in the key you're playing in, but has a dominant relationships to one of the chords that are in the key. for instance, in the key of D, A is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, the chord based on it is called by the roman numeral, V). But in the key of A, E is the dominant chord (fifth scale degree, etc.). So if you were in the key of D, and you played and E and then an A, you could be said to have used a secondary dominant. The way those two chords would be notated by analysis people in that context would be V/V V, or "five of five, five". The dominant of the dominant, then the dominant. You can play secondary dominants of other chords, too, I think. V/IV to IV, V/ii to ii. Does that make any sense? Basically, it's a chord borrowed from another key that wants to resolve to a chord that's in the key you're in. F# in your birthday song sounds that way to me, since it should be f# minor (iii) in the key of D. even though you resolve it up to G rather than to b, of which F# is the dominant.
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		+	woof, sorry about all that. there's a reason i don't teach music. i barely understand it myself. [[User:Gabemcelwain\|Gabemcelwain]] 19:25, 29 July 2007 (PDT)

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	i like the secondary dominants and minor chord on the third "happy birthday...". hilarious harmonies, too. yay! [[User:Gabemcelwain\|Gabemcelwain]] 12:22, 27 July 2007 (PDT)		i like the secondary dominants and minor chord on the third "happy birthday...". hilarious harmonies, too. yay! [[User:Gabemcelwain\|Gabemcelwain]] 12:22, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
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		+	which part is the secondary dominants? i asked google what those were but i'm still not sure. the minor chord was sean's (excellent) idea.:) [[User:Sara\|Sara]] 21:05, 27 July 2007 (PDT)

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		+	i like the secondary dominants and minor chord on the third "happy birthday...". hilarious harmonies, too. yay! [[User:Gabemcelwain\|Gabemcelwain]] 12:22, 27 July 2007 (PDT)

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